Let me give you an idea. This site rocks the Classic Responsive Skin for Thesis. Last year was a very mild winter, so our gas bill to heat, cook and run an on-demand water heater ran from $90 to $110 a year. It's tornadoes that we don't have to worry about. It has been lived in for about 2 decades without a leak. If you raised the walls a few feet and then had the earth sloping AWAY from the entrance that might help keep the rainwater out. Thanks! We run dehumidifiers most of the time except when we were running central air, and our costs for electricity usually run from $125 to $300 a month. We were much younger when we bought it and just didn't think it through. Thank you for reading my article and your very constructive comment. I guess good advice would be not to go to McDonalds if you want a steak. We have a septic tank, so how did it get there? I'm going to go back and revisit my statement. I've crawled up it on all fours like a dog before. Isn't that kind of like "the check is in the mail"? Doris James MizBejabbers (author) from Beautiful South on January 04, 2019: Mr. Butcher, where were you when we needed you! Sincerely, John. Geodesic dome home prices shake out much the same way–it depends on what you have in mind. This came as a surprise. It's the last thing I would expect from a house under the ground, and I know people in the USA can be very protective of the land they own. I grew up in the Ozarks, an area riddled with caves, and I saw the results of water running and dripping through stones, especially limestone. “It is a concrete house, and termites don’t eat concrete,” they said. Do you have any images of the floor plan that you would be willing to share? This niche site is so spastic that I never know when a comment "takes" or not. Although domes can be very intriguing, I don't think their whole procedure was very well thought out. Scroll down to the bottom to see a small diagram of how it is waterproofed and insulated. On two separate occasions, a salamander was found swimming in the toilet in the master bath, and we are still mystified as to how it got there. Nervy neighbors use our roof as a putting green—or a sand trap. The builder, Neil, wants the home to be a model for other home builders. A haunted house or your real, Night mires!!!! Moving doors and small wall would restore to original plan with master suite. I do dearly love living underground. I'm just trying to warn people of the problems that the advertisers don’t want you to know so they won’t get unrealistic expectations the way we did. Doris James MizBejabbers (author) from Beautiful South on October 22, 2018: Rajan, once you are inside mine, you actually can't tell it from any of the conventional homes built on my street. It is 7 years old. I don’t want people to get the impression that this article is only a rant. And I think maybe we do need a pool builder rather than a roofer. Thank you for your comment. The same people who would never invade your front yard or sit on your front porch without an invitation take for granted that there is no visible property above ground! Doris James MizBejabbers (author) from Beautiful South on June 11, 2020: Doris James MizBejabbers (author) from Beautiful South on June 10, 2020: Great comment, Damien. Arkansas is a very weird state. On the other hand, you could build a small monolithic dome house as a permanent shelter for under $10,000 if you do it yourself. I was bundled up in my Snuggie with my two cats, trying to keep warm. (We have a 19-year-old tabby, a skinny, little bundle of bones—and that isn’t healthy for her.). Only last night were we able to turn down the heat. Then sudden rains caused leaks in the building before the clay could swell and seal the water out. Not only does this book tell about site drainage, wall (outer) and slab (under) drains, but also goes in depth on sealing techniques. I don't think these would really take off in Japan since they aren't earthquake proof. In our case, it appears that the subcontractor would have been the one legally liable. The other building was his mini call center. Doris James MizBejabbers (author) from Beautiful South on January 03, 2018: OK, Dell man 9, that sounds like some good advice. Answer: Our house is completely underground as far as the roof and sides of the house go. We have since switched insurance companies and were welcomed with open arms, even despite the fact that we have a wood burning stove in our living room. We installed bentonite clay to prevent leaks from the corner above the atrium. The donafil may be fine, or it may contain small or large chunks of broken concrete. Previous post: A Retirement Portfolio You Can’t Afford To Ignore, Part Two. I've often thought about how nice it would be to have a living room as you, I think I'll stick with the metal roof. Brrrr. He thinks he can do a better job than Terra Dome did with ours, but that isn't saying much. Doris James MizBejabbers (author) from Beautiful South on September 04, 2018: I think it would depend on how wet a climate Michigan has. As A Licensed General Contractor We know what we are doing and hot to do it right. The second change we would make is to move the entrances to the bedroom and hall bathroom (red square). I'll really be glad to get that bathroom back. We are about ready to start again. My mother’s house—located 100 miles north of us with approximately the same area of heated and cooled space as ours—actually used 30% less energy than our underground house. However, a well-built home underground should actually hold its value over a conventional home that deteriorates rapidly due to weathering. They also work by blowing outside air throughout the home which is exhausted as fresh air comes in. I was just warning people not to drop their termite policies just because they had a concrete house underground. ~ Doris. I don’t think he figured in the excavation and burial costs. Basically he waterproofs and insulates the ground above the house in an area extending 20 feet past the house in every direction. We did start out with a wood stove, but found it difficult to buy enough wood for a whole winter season. In your case, excavation and plastic sheeting and insulation retrofitting would be the only fix. I think our last bill was about $160. What an amazing story about your underground home. My son is about to start building an underground house near Tyler, Texas. The type of concrete, the pouring, or in your case spraying, of the concrete, and the admix of the concrete are all critical in getting it right. Doris James MizBejabbers (author) from Beautiful South on July 11, 2019: Mary, I am totally glad to hear from you. No, wait. Please don't be discouraged because of my problem in a high rainfall state. shrinkage as it cures etc. Found insideDescribes the basic construction techniques for earth sheltered homes and discusses the design styles, waterproofing, insulation, lighting, and solar heating of underground houses We later found out he wasn't. It took me a year and over 100 versions, but we are really pleased with the result. Water can’t flow underneath our concrete slab like it can with a house built on a foundation, and the French drains in the atrium cannot handle a deluge. Answer: Actually, I was trying to state just the opposite. Both our realtor and our insurance agent told us that we had no need to renew the termite contract after we closed on the house. Would you put the soil back under a conventional roof after you've sprayed on insulation? If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. Would you email me a photo of it, please? Radius Engineering Survival Shelters. I have no idea who designed the house, the owner or Terra Dome. There is a blog of the build, start to finish. If people knew that Bentonite clay was the chief ingredient in most brands of cat litter, I don't believe they would use it. Today the trees have grown up around it and it is too shady to use for plants except for the winter. I've seen some nifty underground houses on the television but always thought an underground home would be dark, so this was a very educational read. To use DomeGaia’s example, a 1,000-square-foot dome four inches thick costs about $4,000 in Aircrete. Therefore, because of this fact, people choose to have such a home, even if it has low resale chances and are costly to build. Ten years later, I leaned against a wall in the small bathroom, and my hand went through the paneling. I think you are most generous to make your plans available free. Doris James MizBejabbers (author) from Beautiful South on July 13, 2019: No, it was built by a Terra Dome franchise out of Oklahoma, which is now out of business. HubPages changes the date on the article any time I make any kind of updated comment so it might appear to be a new article but it isn't. My sympathies go to everyone experiencing them since I have first-hand knowledge of the consequences. We have since pulled the carpet and layed ceramic tile or hardwood in all but 2 bedrooms. His homes have a french drain all around the place. The termite problem was with the same general home materials like paneling, wood facings, and drywall that termites eat on conventional homes. And poor drainage control measures. But we also didn't have water running and seeping directly into the area either. We even have another place to live while we work on this one (an empty apartment in a piece of rental property), so I have to say I think he is being either unreasonable or impractical, or both. The house is built on a 45 degree slope, but the knoll the house sits upon is so steep that a human cannot walk up or down it. Doris James MizBejabbers (author) from Beautiful South on November 02, 2019: John, we haven't done anything yet. Maybe the concrete boss would not be so much to blame if he weren't informed by the designer/architect/inspectors that underground concrete work is VERY different than your average basement. I think it was about flooding. At least I know how to send a ghost to the light. And on the upside, an abandoned missile silo home with some acreage may cost over $1 million. Oh, I just gotta say it, but don't drive the equipment on the house or the septic system. One particularly stormy night, a torrent poured into the front atrium from the street above the house and flooded the great room. He said he would build an elevator (He is an engineer and was a darned good mechanic). I agree with you. Coal will continue to provide a major portion of energy requirements in the United States for at least the next several decades. One of the biggest rules in building underground is to have as few holes in the roof or walls in order to keep water out. Radius Engineering Unlimited makes survival shelters which … The realtor assured us that the French drains were adequate. Thank you for mentioning a couple of products that we may check in to. I once considered a Formworks home down the road. It seems to me that the Pond Liner materials ( EDPM I think ) would be the best stuff, to create a layered umbrella effect over an earth covered shelter but still, buried under soil. Luckily, the carpet had been removed years ago. Several friends warned us that underground houses were impractical in our area and would leak. My sister and her husband built an underground house in Oklahoma. Rather, these are low cost (possibly mortgage free), Earth-friendly homes. I have received requests to see a floor plan of our house. I’m going to be lazy now and use a calculator to add this all up. No, I don't think that would work. That looks like a good idea if we decide to build another. Also aiming the atrium on the north side toward the street creates a bathtub filling effect and sometimes overloads the French drains from the atrium to the outiside that let the water drain down the hill. Her children are now digging up the dirt floor in our greenhouse. Add to the concrete the different methods such as rebar and the latest fiberglass strands that can help to prevent concrete from cracking. Even our fired bricks start to crumble in 80 to 100 years. I'm so sorry to hear of all the problems with the home. Laws don't matter when people move out of the country. Years ago we were in the HVAC business ourselves, but some of the things we would have liked to do to this house would be difficult or impossible to retrofit onto it. This policy-oriented book then lays out the drastic actions we must take now to remove vulnerable populations. Doris James MizBejabbers (author) from Beautiful South on June 18, 2019: Kirk, I looked at the website and I can tell you that our house can't be retrofitted like that because the former owner built it right on the property line on the west and the east side contains the driveway and the garage. I would have to know where you are talking about, beneath the house or on top. Our house was built in 1980 and we purchased it in 1998. Must-See Underground House in Texas Is Crazy With Color and Extremely Private. Who would have thought to buy flood insurance for a house high upon a hillside? Do you know how these compare? Very educational post for a novice like myself. The Office of Industrial Technologies (OIT) of the U. S. Department of Energy commissioned the National Research Council (NRC) to undertake a study on required technologies for the Mining Industries of the Future Program to complement ... Thank you for reading and commenting. For instance, there are extra supplements that can be added to concrete that make it stronger and more waterproof and less prone to. How to Build An Underground House the Right Way, You may be amazed at how easy it can be for you to get your very own Underground House set up. I don't know why an underground house would depreciate like a vehicle or a mobile home, but that was our experience. I would be happy to answer questions if anyone wants to contact me. ft. of roof alone if we covered the atrium, too. And, oh yes, it would have to be in a dry climate! Out back is a 14’ X 14’ greenhouse and decks on three levels with a south view of the Arkansas River and a line-of-sight view of the Arkansas State Capitol on the hill across the river. I wish you would write your own article on HubPages about your house since you love it and are only having minor problems with it. You have accurately analyzed it all in a nutshell. The franchise hired substandard subcontractors, or their contractor did, and the house suffers from a poor mix of concrete. Summertime is great, the AC is usually set at 78 and sometimes the quilts are used then too. I was just wondering if you had any suggestions or things you would of done differently before you began. Building this type of home comes with many challenges. Sorry, you had this experience, the concept is great though. We were naïve enough to dig up part of the house, install the glorified cat litter, and replace the dirt (see photo). My husband building the third deck with hot tub. Just one more word of advice. We live in an underground home in iowa. I thought that state was much dryer than Arkansas, but I may be thinking of the western part of the state. We have a gallon bucket of golf balls they’ve lost—retrieved mostly from the woods below the house. k.dickinson@texaslonghorn.com on June 17, 2019: There is a book called: Passive Annual Heat Storage: Improving the Design of Earth Shelters, by John Hait. Eighteen years ago, we moved into an earth-sheltered dome home built into a hillside. It is very efficient, though it did take about a year to stabilize. Doris James MizBejabbers (author) from Beautiful South on August 17, 2018: Thank you, James. New technologies are making it possible to build better, more waterproof underground houses today. Found inside – Page 61Built at a cost of about $ 30 per square foot , the Quonset cottage functions as an eightroom house . A great room accommodates living , dining , and ... We heat and cool about 2,000 sq. And they had to use scaffolding to clean their ceiling fan. Water is the carrier of heat, out or in. G. Frazier - General Contractor on August 19, 2018: Very simply put, your underground home was not properly built. Cost Underground-homes.com More results . When the concrete trucks arrived he tested the mix to be sure it was what he wanted. In the past, we have found it necessary to run both simultaneously. this example is of a “safe cellar” accessible directly from a stairwell under the home’s kitchen, all for the tidy price of $95,000. There are many good reasons why…, Some of the most interesting types of homes in the world are subterranean homes. As well as the small berms that would direct water from their apex into the atrium, also. The original owner was responsible to ensure all of these problems weren't going to happen. It is the second one on our property. We live in a berm home in rural So Illinois, our roof and southwest wall are exposed. I don't know what we'd do if the pipes were in the concrete. Hope you have sorted out the problems and are happy there still. After I retired in 2016, we thought we'd get right on it, but health problems prevent our doing so. BTW my husband's grandfather was a winemaker. Our bedroom is cold, and we use an electric plug-in heater in the bath next to it. We enjoy so many things about living underground: We watch tornadoes from our back door as they follow their usual route along the Arkansas River. For example, retaining walls must be constructed to hold back the weight of the earth. Our area overlooking the river serves as an alley for tornadoes. Most people believe that an underground home must be dark and dreary. But being on this hill, they do not use their backyard either. The book works inward from broad coverage of overall power systems all the way down to specific equipment application. L. Doris James MizBejabbers (author) from Beautiful South on May 27, 2020: Yes, you make sense, Michael, but remember that our house is now considered "an old house" and many improvements and changes have been made in the design and materials used in building underground houses. I find it enlightening. Look them up and view their online specs to make sure you avoid any company that uses their methods, especially the skin they pour on the house. This improved air quality considerably. However recently we seem to be having 500 year monsoons, and nobody would have thought to prepare for those. Being retired at a time where life should be easier, you have multiple problems with this house. We probably have the only house in Arkansas with stalactites on the ceiling. I designed and build a Terra-Dome home and had none of the problems you noted. We converted this former wood stove to gas, and since it is ventilated, we haven't had any problems with it. We had hoped to start on the repairs this spring, but my husband has been in very poor health, to the point of having a pacemaker installed, so I don't know when he will feel strong enough to begin repairs. Rajan Singh Jolly from From Mumbai, presently in Jalandhar, INDIA. We couldn't have gotten a loan for that amount either. These people would wait until we were not at home to walk across the roof and putt or to do whatever reason they were trespassing. Remember that should cracks occur in poured slabs whether on top, bottom or walls, it is the embedded rebar that minimizes the crack open size by holding, the wall pieces together even though they are cracked. Click the book image below for more details. I believe our walls are 12" thick, and I suppose the roof domes are too. Our hill is so steep that the water routes itself. After signing a confession, he escapes from custody and flees into the city’s sewer system. This is the devastating premise of this scorching novel, a never-before-seen masterpiece by Richard Wright. Right now at least the drains in the atrium do work except for sudden deluges. The second plan contains the changes marked in red. Now I know what to look for and what to consider before I commit. I hope to alert people to possible problems so they can eliminate them before they happen. Second, the AC is very noisy and it is difficult to talk over it or to hear the TV set. It might work in a dry state but not here. With the rebar and concrete it is rated at 50,000 lb/ft. Don't you think an earth-sheltered atrium would be better, maybe something more along the lines of a bomb shelter? I may try to find someone to inject epoxy like you had mentioned was recommended to you. Doris James MizBejabbers (author) from Beautiful South on July 27, 2020: Pete, I'm very glad you did. 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